Known Associates

The Small Brothers
Got The Hurt
7" single
1980

Albion (ION 1003)

Produced by Pat Collier at Alaska Studios, London

All songs written by Bill Carter

A-Side:
1. Got The Hurt
B-Side:
1. Love and Murder
2. Baby Mine

Features Bill, Chris and Kenny recorded together for the first time.
Etched on the A-Side is 'Drive Friendly' and etched on the B-Side 'Get Carter'.

Motor Boys Motor
Drive Friendly
7" single
1980

SHH Four Records
(SSH 4)

Produced by Pat Collier
'Drive Friendly' written by Carter/Moon
'Fast n Bulbous' written by Don Van Vliet (Captain Beefheart)

A-Side: Drive Friendly
B-Side: Fast 'n' Bulbous / Grow Fins

Line-up consists of Chris on bass, Tony Moon on vocals for the A-Side and Bill on vocals on the B-Side. Oh, and Bill's on drums as well and did the cover artwork!

Robyn Hitchcock
Eaten By Her Own Dinner
7" single
1982

Midnight Music Ding 2

Recorded November 1981

A-Side:
1. Eaten By Her Own Dinner
B-Side:
1. Listening To The Higsons
2. Dr. Sticky

Bill and Chris play on the title track on side one. Also released on a Hitchcock 12" compilation in 1986.

Motor Boys Motor
Motor Boys Motor
LP
1982

Albion (ALLP 4.00043)

Produced by John Brand at The Workhouse, Old Kent Road, London. Engineerd by John Brand and Rik Walton.

All songs written by Motor Boys Motor

Side One:
1. Drive Friendly (3:07)
2. Hooves (3:55)
3. Here Come the Flintstones (3:02)
4. Yes Indeedy (3:07)
5. Clean Shirt and a Shave (5:12)

Side Two:
1. Sacred Pie (2:14)
2. Little Boy and Fat Man (3:14)
3. One Down, One Down (3:02)
4. Claw Boys Claw (3:09)
5. Freeze Up The Truth (7:05)

Lineup Tony Moon: vocals, harp, horn, jaw / Bill Carter: guitar / Chris Thompson: bass, acoustic and slide guitar / John Kingham: drums, percussion. Seamus Beaghen plays Hammond on 'Clean Shirt And A Shave'.

A great lost album and several hints of things to come with the Messiahs. Obviously the Flintstone song title, but also some lyrics from 'Drive Friendly' appear again on the Totally Religious track 'Nitro' ("She's black and evil with chrome all down the side"). Moon's stream-of-consciousness ranting vocal style will sound familiar too. I remember seeing a band called Claw Boys Claw at the Melkweg, Amsterdam, New Years Eve in the late '80s.

For detailed information on all aspects of Motor Boys Motor you must check out Tommy's excellent site dedicated to the band: www.motorboysmotor.de

Motor Boys Motor
Motor Boys Motor
CD
1997

Line Music (LNE 901348)

Released by Line Music, Germany in 1997. Tracks identical to LP versiion.

www.linemusic.de

Motor Boys Motor
Free flexidisc
1980

Given away with the UK release of the album

1: Motor Boys Motor - Little Boy & Fat Man

2: Robyn Hitchcock - 52 Stations

Motor Boys Motor
Bootleg CD
Rote Fabrik
Zürich, Germany
20th March 1983

1. Clean Shirt And A Shave
2. Growing For Gold
3. Hot And Cold
4. (unknown)
5. Little Boy And Fat Man
6. (unknown)
7. Here Come The Flintstones
8. Drive Friendley

Motor Boys Motor
Bootleg CD
Quartier Latin
Berlin, Germany
7th January 1983

1. Clean Shirt And A Shave
2. Growing For Gold
3. Hot And Cold
4. Here Come The Flintstones
5. Little Boy And Fat Man
6. (unknown)
7. Claw Boys Claw
8. (unknown)
9. Sacred Pie
10. Drive Friendly
11. Hooves

Stiff, Stiffer, Stiffest
(A Stiff Records Collection) Compilation CD
2001

Metro
(METRCD042)

Compiled by Joe Cushley

21 track compilation featuring 'Drive Friendly' by Motor Boys Motor.

The track also appears on the 4 CD collection from Demon Records 'The Stiff Records Box Set', (STIFF BOX 1), released August 1992.

Some Sides Of Line
20th Anniversary
Compilation CD

Line Records
(LNE 901356)

'Drive Friendly' from Motor Boys Motor

Raiding The Vaults
Stiff Rarities & Oddities Vol 1
Compilation CD
2003

Pickwick
(781042)

Features 'Drive Friendly'

Don't Let The Hope Close Down
Compilation LP
1984

HOPE 1

Charity record to save the Hope & Anchor pub in London from closure.

Amongst other acts like The Pogues, Robyn Hitchcock and The Men They Couldn't Hang, it also features 'Tracking The Dog' by the Messiahs.

Beach Party
Big Beat Compilation
1985

BigBeat
(W1KM 39)

Features 'Tracking The Dog' from the Messiahs' 'Good And Gone' EP.

King Blank
Mouth Off
12" promo single
1988

Situation Two
(SIT 51)

Recorded at The Greenhouse, January 1988

A-Side: Mouth Off (2.03)

B-Side: 1. Drunk on Tears 2. Bagman

King Blank (Ian Lowery) formerly of the Folk Devils, Ski Patrol and The Wall. The A-Side, Mouth Off, is co-written and produced by Bill. It features Bill on guitar and harmonica, Chris on bass and Kenny on drums. The B-Side features Ian with Nigel Pulsford (now of Bush) on guitar, keyboards and drums.

The Sounds Machine EP
7" single
1988

(MACH 2)

Given away free with Sounds Magazine, UK

A-Side
1: Living Colour - Open Letter (To A Landlord) (Live)
2: The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Sweet Water Pools

B-Side
1: Queensrÿche - Revolution Calling
2: Voivod - Too Scared To Scream

The Sounds / WEA Christmas Cracker
7" single
December 1985

WEA International
(CRACKER 1)

Given away free with Sounds Magazine, UK

A-Side
1: The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Twin Cadillac Valentine
2: Sudden Sway - Fatherized

B-Side
1: The Associates - Breakfast (Recorded Live At Ronnie Scotts)
2: Brilliant (Killing Joke project) - Subtle Manoeuvres

Play This!
The Best New Music on Elektra
Compilation CD
1988

Elektra
(PR 2213-2)

Promo compilation of Elektra artists.
Includes 'I Wanna Be A Flintstone' and 'Bikini Red'.

A Kick Up The Eighties Vol. 9
Compilation CD
1992

Old Gold Records Ltd.
(OG 3528)

Subtitled Steppin' Out -
18 Great Eighties Hits

Includes 'I Wanna Be A Flintstone'

The Flintstones OST
Music From Bedrock
CD / 12" vinyl Picture Disc
1994

MCA Soundtracks
(MCA 11100)

Features 'I Wanna Be A Flintstone', needless to say.

Hard To Find Classics
Alternative 80s
Compilation CD
1997

A&M Canada
(314 555 327-2)

Features 'I Wanna Be A Flintstone' Extended Mix (5:22)

Retro:Active -
Rare & Remixed
Compilation CD
January 2004

Hi-Bias Records
(HIB-10092)

Features 'I Wanna Be A Flintstone' Extended Mix (5:22)

Hilarious!
Compilation CD
2006

Flashback Records

Includes 'I Wanna Be A Flintstone'

Dynamo Hum
Four Cute Creatures
10" EP
199?

Shagrat (005)

All tracks written by Thompson/Moon

Produced by Pat Collier

Side One:
1. Shake Marilyn Monroe
2. Drunken Angel

Side Two:
1. Head Hive and the Honey
2. Ball that Jack

Lineup
Chris Thompson guitars, vocals
Tony Moon vocals, harp
Ricky McGuire bass
Kenny Harris drums

Etched on the record are the messages 'Dedicated to the memory of Lee Brilleaux' and 'Love is a Cadillac and Death is a Ford'.

The Killer B's
Love is a Cadillac -
Death is a Ford
CD
199?

Cat Music 001

All tracks written by Thompson/Moon

Produced by Pat Collier

1. Liar Liar (3.43)
2. Colour Me Go (4.12)
3. Bad Ju Ju (3.18)
4. Clam Digger
5. Head Hive and the Honey (4.42)
6. Jack Kerouac Kinda Day
7. Grown So Ugly
8. Drunken Angel
9. Shake Marilyn Monroe (3.57)
10. Low Watt Light
11. Ball That Jack
12. Killer's Kiss (4.18)

Tracks on the Dynamo Hum release are identical to those on The Killer B's album. Tony Moon and Kenny Harris later leave The Killer B's. Chris takes over vocal duties and Dave Morgan is brought in on drums. The band have their own MySpace site at: www.myspace.com/thekillerbsband and a UK website at: www.killerbs.co.uk

Bill Carter
New demo recordings
1995 - 2005

Posted on Bill's MySpace website

Bill Carter
guitar and vocals
Sarah Corina
bass
JJ Johnson
drums

Simsala Bim Bam (3.51) Recorded 1995
Promised Land (3.05) Recorded 1995
Motorhead (2.24) Recorded 2000
Treetops Surrender (3.08) Recorded 2005

Some of these tracks are still available to listen to on Bill's site: